interesting NZ article about seesheep

<cutted away a lot of hate and anger>

I know some of the men you are talking about, and they are honest and hard working family men´who is living in harmony with nature and God.

If they have icy hearts, then every man and woman who is working at a farm with animals or at a slaugther house is icy hearted.

In that case, humans must also stop all of it's fishing. As long as humans are harvesting the sea, they are responsible of keeping the habitation of the oceans balanced.

I can understand your vision, if you are a total vegetarian and believe in your heart that all the world should be the same.

Man was feeding on animals long before he started to harvest anything, and I find the thought that some animals are more worthy than others rather silly.

Ok, do you think that deers have equal rights to be saved from wolfes as well?

Wake up, this is the real world, not a crayon dream by Disney!

That could very well be.

Man is not responsible for managing this Earth.

Yep, that's it.

That is a basis for modern life?

True.

Irrelevant, since man does not base his ethics on animal behavior.

And this is not some bible vision of man having 'dominion' over all either.

Richard Hayduke Lives! 'The fundamental wrong is the system that allows us to view animals as our resources, here for us - to be eaten, or surgically manipulated, or exploited for sport or money.' Tom Regan (philosopher)

As long as man is using this Earth, and he has to, he's bound to keep the balance. Do you really think that we, as many as we are, does not have to balance the outtakes we make from nature?

And then his discussion is not about whales.

Do you think that it's more wrong to hunt whales than moose or deers?

Yes, most humans is still eating meat.

Man is an animal, among others.

Of course not. Like it or not, we must have food!

The majority of mankind eats meat, and I can't see that eating minke whale makes my moral any lower than someone who eats a deer chaught in some american woods.

Man neds to try to keep in balance with the Earth, not try to outsmart Mother Nature and try to manage *her*.

Sure we need to, but we don't. What does man ever give back to the Earth?

Of course it is. Whales are a subset of animals.

Yep.

That does not make it morally right.

Yes he is, but he does not base either his behavior nor his ethics on what animals do.

Sure we do. But we don't need meat.

It doesn't.

Richard Hayduke Lives! 'Remain a parasite OR become an Earth Warrior. Serve your Mother and prosper OR serve civilization and besmear yourself with the filth and guilt of ecocide.' Paul Watson

Interesting, please explain.

Minor brain fart. I think it is as wrong to hunt whales as moose or deers. I will admit toward a bias toward whales, as I have a bias toward dogs. Pesonal preference, but that does not mean I favor killing animals at all.

Richard Hayduke Lives! 'Remain a parasite OR become an Earth Warrior. Serve your Mother and prosper OR serve civilization and besmear yourself with the filth and guilt of ecocide.' Paul Watson

Although I don't agree with your preferences, I respect them and wish you the best of luck in trying to convince meatlovers like me about the joys of veggies

But, I'll never respect the way the crew of Sea Sheeperd is acting against, in my view, honest and hard working fishermen. As long as man is eating meat, taking out well under one percent of the minke whale population in the north-east atlantic is not plundering or harasment to nature. I would rather be a whale, hunted by a pro whaler, than a deer hunted by some jolly hobby hunter!

Why, if she feels this way, would she join a group who welcomes Paul Watson, or is she just another writer with 'we-itus'. Perhaps she feels that being part of a 'we' will give credibility to her writing?

Indeed he is. He is responsible for bringing many hideous greedy practices to light, and of apprehending law breakers in International waters. Good on him.

No, Sea Shepherds don't make International law but it is a convention that anyperson is able to aprehend a law breaker in International waters. So Watson is brave enough to oppose bad practices.

Bit like the police spikes used to slow law breakers. Doesn't sound right, many sinkings? Nobody has suffered any physical harm from sea shepherds.

Yes you are, perhaps you should stick to Latte slurping on the side walks of

I know some of the men talked about too and they are not living in harmony with nature and most find god in either drugs or alcohol. I have a series of pics of one of the leading tuna fishing spokes people here in New Zealand firing a rocket flare into the mouth of a large shark caught on his line. This is a consistent level of cruelty with others in the industry.

I saw a Norwegian whaler talking about the thrill he gets from the chase and the kill. That was the only reason he sails, the only reason he sets foot on a whaling boat, was for the chance of killing such a big animal. His words, not mine.

Living in harmony with nature and being close to god have no place in any killing industry. You are more likely to find people fueled by drugs and alcohol, lack of education, people with gambling addictions, broken relationships among fishers and whalers than anyone in harmony with nature or close to god.

Living in harmony with nature and being close to god have no place in any killing industry. You are more likely to find people fueled by drugs and alcohol, lack of education, people with gambling addictions, broken relationships among fishers and whalers than anyone in harmony with nature or close to god. -=-=-=-=-=

fueled by alcohol? Paul Watson lack of education? Paul Watson gambling addiction? Paul Watson? broken relationships? Paul Watson In harmony with nature? Not Paul Watson, who uses enough petroleum to run a micronation.

Close to God? Not Paul Watson. He thinks he IS God and all other religions are bunk.