Native American whale hunt threatened by measure pushed by Japan to punish US

Native American whale hunt threatened by measure pushed by Japan to punish US

KENJI HALL, Associated Press Writer

05-23) 03:52 PDT SHIMONOSEKI, Japan (AP)

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Except last I heard, whale meat is a luxury item in Japan and hunting is done for a fairly large commercial return under the rather dubious get-out IWC clause of 'hunting allowed for research'. I doubt there would be much 'plight' about it, and it is not integral to their culture.

Always glad to hear your opinion, Kevin. Would you care to give some weight to your credentials? Otherwise you are subject to Usenet Law #2: 'Opinions are like assholes; everybody has one.' Then there is Keely's Corollary; 'Yours always smells worse than mine.' And what 'their culture' is that? Tokyo or the four towns which have had traditional coastal whaling for maybe 1000 years?

Don't get me wrong? I have flamed Japan big time in the last week. But you get nowhere with me by having an opinion. Opinion and 1 buck gets ya a bus ride.

I'd be particularly interested in your assertion that there is a large commercial return. My impression is that the present minke hunt only is sustained by government subsidy. Japan is a cornucopia of subsidies with them trying to spend their way out of their recession, now in its 12th year.

Pretty much, in traditional whaling communities that isn't so much the case though.

The Japanese research programmes *lose* money, not make it.

Perhaps then you are totally unaware of the situation in traditional whaling communities. If not, I can not understand how you could say this.

Who are you to say what is and what is not integral to a culture other than your own?

Please explain.

Dirk's Japanese name is Honto Bakana.

First of all, Kevin, eat shit and die. I courteously asked for some point of reference, and 'generally known' in the context of this debate doesn't meet that standard. Either step up to the plate or forfeit, dude. Just as a point of reference, the protesters claimed that the whale meat was inedible by humans, then they claimed that despite being inedible by humans, it was worth Big Bucks in Japan; then when it was pointed out that US law presently forbids export of the meat for commercial purpose, they went back to 'the Siberian word for gray whale meat is 'that which makes you shit' which I don't think slimeball Michael Kundu could remember in the Siberian. Then about 1000 people feasted on 'Yabis'; the only one I heard who got sick was Robert Sullivan, and he admitted it was emotional.

Second, Floyd, as far as understanding the IWC negotiations with Japan, I believe the criticism was that the minke hunt was unlikely to produce research results of sufficient value to justify killing the whales. That is a subjective judgment, as I understand it. The IWC staff did not say the research scheme had NO value, correct?

Third, I believe that the IWC criticism of the Bryde's whale take was that the numbers were not known with sufficient certainty to permit a research hunt without additional population data. I never saw where Japan rebutted that charge, and that is where I flamed Japan even before the last Commission meeting. Correct me if I am wrong. It is certainly the sort of thing on which reasonable experts could disagree.

And by the way, welcome back. YOu will notice that I have been paying attention to your gentle advice to sometimes feed a troll. Paid professional troll and snitch, new career opportunities on Usenet. The B team has been around too, Floyd,