New Science Doesnt Sway Bush

We already have reopened the vineyards. Why do you think we take global warming so seriously? It is happening here!

Cheers, Alastair.

Novmeber 10, 2004

W. D. Allen Sr. wrote:

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Thomas Lee Elifritz

Then it's also one that the earth is billions of years old, that atoms exist, that species evolve...

Do they have proof that atoms exist there? That time slows in a gravity

Let's see:

Yup, looks like a bunch of voodoo yahoos to me. Look at this:
http://www.pewclimate.org/pewbrookings.cfm

U.S. CLIMATE POLICY: TOWARD A SENSIBLE CENTER June 24-25 Washington D.C. 

including...            Donald Kennedy, Editor in Chief, Science    R. James Woolsey, Vice President, Booz Allen Hamilton    Joseph I. Lieberman, United States Senate    Spencer Abraham, Secretary, Department of Energy     Michael Morris, Chairman, President, and CEO, American Electric Power    Larry Schweiger, President and CEO, National Wildlife Federation    Jo Cooper, Vice President for Government Relations, Toyota            Chris Mottershead, Distinguished Advisor BP            Eileen Claussen, President, Pew Center            John Rowe, Chairman and CEO, Exelon Corporation     John McCain, United States Senate     James Connaughton, Chairman, White House Council on Environmental Quality    Stephen Timms, Energy Minister, United Kingdom    Elliot Diringer, Director of International Strategies, Pew Center on Global Climate Change    Nigel Purvis, Brookings Scholar on Environment, Development and Global Issues,       The Brookings Institution    James Wolfensohn, President, The World Bank Group

Not a group we should be taking seriously, for sure.

Thanks. That's horrifying. I guess I haven't had enough horrifying news lately.

mt

Dutch proverb: 'If the fox preaches the passion, peasant, watch out for your chickens'.

The CEO of American Electric Power, Michael Morris, is member of this committee to reduce CO2, but he will extent the life of his coal fired power plants, instead of switching to (less CO2 emitting) natural gas... See: http://www.twst.com/notes/articles/sah226.html

Exelon's power generation is mainly based on nuclear (18,000 MW vs. 10,000 MW), has some hydropower (2,000 MW) and yes, even 175 MW of wind power. They are interested in starting up a new nuclear plant (which will reduce CO2 emissions), but what with its waste today, in the coming decades, centuries?

BP is interested in solar energy, but it's main interest, still by large, is oil exploration and oil sales...

Anyone of the distinguished members probably is emitting more CO2 than any of us in their continuous travel to the next meeting, besides their use of the most prestiguous (and gas guzzling) cars of their fleet. Anyway all of them can afford to pay for even a doubling of (increased tax) fuel prices. Only peanuts for their wages...